Published: September 28, 2019  Updated: September 28, 2019 at 4:04 pm EST

A California abortionist testified under oath last week that there is ‘no question’ that babies are purposely being born alive to harvest organs. The abortionist testified during a preliminary hearing in the criminal case against undercover journalist David Daleiden.

LifeSiteNews first reported the testimony, and also revealed that what the undercover journalists exposed was "only the tip of the iceberg." Dr. Forrest Smith, the abortionist who testified, has reportedly performed over 50,000 abortions. Further, during the testimony, Smith outlined gruesome details of the abortion business.

"Smith testified that it is almost certain that some of the abortionists featured in the undercover videos deliberately altered abortion procedures in a way that both led to the birth of living babies with beating hearts, and put women at risk. The goal in these cases would be to obtain fresher, more intact organs," LifeSiteNews reported.

Alisa Goldberg, who presented the video, "spoke about using large doses of the drug misoprostol in order to carry out second-trimester induced abortions in one day rather than the four it usually takes," Live Action reported. "Smith testified that this would lead to a live birth. Large doses of misoprostol, said Smith, would cause ‘tumultuous labor’ that leads to ‘fetal expulsion’ — meaning the baby would be born without any assistance from the abortionist and no instruments would be used. He testified that very few abortionists other than Planned Parenthood do this."

"In this case clearly the intent is same-day surgery. They fully intend to put the uterus into labor," Smith said. When asked if this could "lead to a live birth," the abortionist said, "There’s no question in my mind that at least some of these fetuses were live births." Later, Smith also stated that a baby would "no question" be born "alive" in cases where Digoxin, which is used to cause heart failures in abortions, is not used. According to Live Action. "No question it’s alive," Smith said.

The California abortionist stated that a beating heart is what indicates a live or deceased baby, instead of "no breathing" or "no movement." "All testimony we have seen, no breathing, no movement, no cord" he said, or "arms, legs torn off, the assumption is: that is fetal demise. But that’s completely wrong."

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The abortionist’s testimony was particularly jarring since Smith once loathed Daleiden and wished to expose him as a "fraud." That changed when the doctor watched the undercover videos and spoke to Daleiden directly.

"I’m going to take down that son of a bitch. He’s f***ing with me now,’" Smith told the court he said of Daleiden in 2015. According to LifeSiteNews, Smith then met with the journalist in August of that year with the intention of exposing "Daleiden as a fraud."

Smith soon realized Daleiden was exposing the truth about the abortion industry and, chillingly, "didn’t know the half of what was going on."

The videos that Daleiden released were jarring, and damning for Planned Parenthood. As a result, Planned Parenthood first claimed that the videos were fake. However, on January 18, 2019, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit concluded the videos were authentic.

Although, Daleiden was charged with fifteen felonies, alleging that he and his associate Sandra Susan Merritt were guilty of conspiring to pose as BioMax employees in order to intentionally record confidential communications between themselves and Planned Parenthood employees.

On June 21, 2017, Superior Court Judge Christopher Hite dismissed fourteen of the charges, with leave to amend, on the grounds that they were legally insufficient because they did not include details such as the names of the alleged victims and the locations and dates of the videoed events. "Leave to amend" means that the prosecutors were allowed the option to re-file the charges with more details; the prosecutors did so some time during the week of July 3, and all fifteen felony charges against Daleiden and Merritt are active again.

On June 30, 2017, state prosecutors refiled the 14 dismissed charges with numerical identifications for each video. On August 24, 2017, the San Francisco Superior Court rejected new defense motions to dismiss the charges and allowed the case to proceed. Daleiden then pleaded not guilty.

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